Frequently Asked Questions (Word, 206kb, opens in a new window)
Q: I want to apply for a Firearm Licence. What do I have to do?
A Firearm Licence entitles the holder to possess, carry, and lawfully use the firearm/s named and identified in that licence, and ammunition for that firearm.
Refer to Section 16(1)(a) of the Firearms Act.
An approval is determined by the category or type of firearm applied for, and the reason for which it is required.
- Application for a Firearm Licence is to be completed online by the applicant, then validated and printed. Refer www.police.wa.gov.au and follow the links.
- You must attend a nominated Australia Post outlet with your application, supporting documentation and fee.
Note: If your application is for a first time issue (original) Firearm Licence, you will need to supply the following in addition to your supporting documentation:
- Firearm Awareness Certificate (obtained from authorised persons of approved Clubs/Associations).
- Firearm Serviceability Certificate for each firearm (obtained from the seller of the firearm).
The term "supporting documentation" may include but not limited to, the following:
- Property Letter/Primary Producer Advice
- Club Support Letter
- Occupational Requirement Disclosure
- Identification Exemption Certificate
- Proof of Property Ownership
- Certificate of Incorporation
- Certificate of Registered Business Name
A 28 day cooling-off period will apply to first time issue (original) applicants for a Firearm Licence. This means your licence will not be processed until after the 28 days.
- For first time issue (original) firearm licence applications, Police Licensing Services (PLS) will mail you a letter requesting that you confirm your intention to proceed with your application and to fit an approved cabinet to store your firearm. You will need to provide a Statutory Declaration evidencing this. Refer www.police.wa.gov.au and follow the links to "Licensing requirements/Storage".
Note: Failure to advise PLS of your intentions to continue with your application within a further 28 days will result in your application lapsing and the application will be declined.
- The applicant will receive notification of acceptance or refusal in the mail. If successful, you will be issued a licence (via post).
- For a first time issue (original) Firearm Licence, this notification will also include a request for you to attend a post office to have your photograph taken for an Extract of Licence card which incurs a fee. This card will be mailed to you at a later stage.
- If refused, and you are applying for an original licence, you will be forwarded a partial refund of the original payment and receive documentation detailing the reasons for this decision.
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Q: I want to apply for a Category B firearm. What do I have to do?
Follow the same process as an application for a Firearm Licence.
A licence for a Category B (High Powered) firearm is the same as a Category A firearm; however you will need to satisfy the Commissioner that a firearm of Category A would be inadequate or unsuitable for the purpose for which the firearm is required.
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Q: I want to apply for a Category H firearm. What do I have to do?
Follow the same process as an application for a Firearm Licence.
Active members of firearm clubs can apply for a Category H firearm (handgun) subject to certain conditions and/or restrictions.
The only exceptions (non-club purposes) are:
- professional or recreational divers (for power heads);
- required in the course of the person's occupation (restrictions do apply); and
- Commonwealth or State Government purposes.
Note: Hunting, recreational shooting or vermin control are not deemed to be a "genuine reason" for possessing a firearm of this type.
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Q: I want to apply for a Firearm Collectors Licence. What do I have to do?
A Collectors Licence allows the holder to possess, but not carry or use any firearm named and identified in the licence.
- Application for a Collector's Licence is to be completed online by the applicant, then validated and printed. Refer www.police.wa.gov.au and follow the links.
You will need to provide supporting documentation that demonstrates the firearm has significant commemorative, historical, thematic or heirloom value.
- You must attend a nominated Australia Post outlet with your application, supporting documentation and fee.
- You will receive notification of acceptance or refusal in the mail.
- If successful, you will be issued a licence (via post).
- If declined, and you are applying for an original licence you will be forwarded a partial refund of the original payment.
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Q: I want to apply for an Ammunition Collectors Licence. What do I have to do?
An Ammunition Collectors Licence allows a person to possess and carry ammunition, but they are not allowed to use the ammunition.
In some cases the quantities of ammunition may be specified.
- Application for a Collector's Licence is to be completed online by the applicant, then validated and printed. Refer www.police.wa.gov.au and follow the links.
You will need to provide supporting documentation in relation to your reasons for wishing to obtain this licence.
- You must attend a nominated Australia Post outlet with your application, supporting documentation and fee.
- You will receive notification of acceptance or refusal in the mail.
- If successful, you will be issued a licence (via post).
- If declined, and you are applying for an original licence you will be forwarded a partial refund of the original payment.
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Q: I want to apply for a Corporate Licence. What do I have to do?
A Corporate Licence is issued to companies that rely on the use of firearms within the course of their occupation i.e. security companies, paintball venues, government agencies and primary producers. The licence allows them to possess firearms and ammunition named and identified in that licence.
- Application for a Corporate Licence is to be completed online by the applicant, then validated and printed. Refer www.police.wa.gov.au and follow the links.
- You must attend a nominated Australia Post outlet with your application, supporting documentation and fee.
- Note: You will need to supply the following as part of your supporting documentation:
- Firearm Serviceability Certificate for each firearm subject.
- Agents Nominee Letter as written proof of authority to make this application on behalf of a business/company.
- Your application will be sent to Police Licensing Services who will send you a package to complete and return.
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Q: I want to apply for a Dealers Licence. What do I have to do?
A Dealers Licence allows a person, who in the ordinary course of business buys, sells or trades in firearms or ammunition.
- Application for a Dealers Licence is to be completed online by the applicant, then validated and printed. Refer www.police.wa.gov.au and follow the links.
- You must attend a nominated Australia Post outlet with your application, supporting documentation and fee.
Note: As part of your application you must provide an Agents Nominee Letter as written proof of authority to make this application on behalf of a business/company.
- Your application will be sent to Police Licensing Services who will send you a package to complete and return.\
- You will receive notification of acceptance or refusal in the mail. If successful, you will be issued a licence (via post).
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Q: I want to apply for a Manufacturers Licence. What do I have to do?
A Manufacturers Licence allows a person to manufacture firearms and ammunition of the kind specified in that licence on the premises named and identified in that licence and to sell and dispose of such firearms and ammunition at those premises.
- Application for a Manufacturer's Licence is to be completed online by the applicant, then validated and printed. Refer www.police.wa.gov.au and follow the links.
- You must attend a nominated Australia Post outlet with your application, supporting documentation and fee.
- Your application will be sent to Police Licensing Services who will send you a package to complete and return. At a later date, you will be requested to participate in a theoretical test of your knowledge and experience in relation to the subject.
- You will receive notification of acceptance or refusal in the mail. If successful, you will be issued a licence (via post).
Note: It is possible to seek the issue of a Restricted Manufacturers Licence. In the main, they are for the manufacture and sale of ammunition.
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Q: I want to apply for a Repairers Licence. What do I have to do?
A Repairers Licence allows a person to repair firearms belonging to persons who are authorised by this Act or any other law to possess them and possess ammunition for those firearms on the premises named and identified in that licence.
- Application for a Repairer's Licence is to be completed online by the applicant, then validated and printed. Refer www.police.wa.gov.au and follow the link.
- You must attend a nominated Australia Post outlet with your application, supporting documentation and fee.
- Your application will be sent to Police Licensing Services who will send you a package to complete and return. At a later date, you will be requested to participate in a theoretical test of your knowledge and experience about the subject.
- You will receive notification of acceptance or refusal in the mail. If successful, you will be issued a licence (via post).
Note: It is possible to seek the issue of a Restricted Repairers Licence depending on the applicant's intentions and knowledge.
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Q: I don't have internet access. How do I apply?
You will need to go to your local police station and ask for a handwritten application form.
- Be advised that this form has a unique barcode and will be pre-printed with your full name.
- Take note that Australia Post will not accept photocopies of the handwritten form due to its unique ID number. It will cause a rejection by Australia Post should their system detect an application with a duplicate number.
- Prior to attending your local police station, it is preferable that you know how many application forms you will require; i.e. if you are applying for a Category A and a Category H licence, you will require two (2) application forms. Categories A and B can be combined into one application, however, Categories C, E and H licences will each require separate applications.
- Once you have completed filling in your details on the application form, you will need to go to a participating Australia Post outlet to submit your application. Bring along supporting documentation and the fee. DO NOT TAKE FIREARMS TO THE POST OFFICE. Information on participating Post Office outlets can be obtained by telephoning 13 13 18.
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Q: What else will I need when I attend the Post Office?
You will require:
- proof of identity with a photograph;
- supporting documentation (relevant to the reason for wishing to licence a firearm).
- Serviceability Certificate for each firearm you are seeking to licence.
- Firearms Awareness Certificate if you are a first time applicant for a Firearm Licence.
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Q: What is a Serviceability Certificate and how do I obtain one?
The certificate is provided by the firearm seller and includes details of the firearm, such as its make, serial number and calibre. It also certifies the firearm meets the safety requirements and can be issued by participating Firearm Dealers, Repairers, Manufacturers and Clubs/Associations.
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Q: What is a Firearms Awareness Certificate and how do I obtain one?
If your application is for a first time issue (original) Firearm Licence you must complete a firearm awareness test. The test is designed to ensure you understand the basic requirements for the safe handling of firearms. The test and supporting information is available through authorised persons of approved firearm clubs or associations.
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Q: How old do I have to be before I can be issued a Firearm Licence?
Under Section 10 of the Firearms Act the minimum age for the issue of a licence or permit in Western Australia is 18. However, there are no age restrictions on the use of a firearm, other than a handgun, while under the direct supervision of the owner of the firearm.
Further exemptions apply in the case where firearms are used on approved shooting ranges. Refer to Section 8 of the Firearms Act 1973.
Juveniles may use a paintball gun at an approved establishment if over the age of 16.
Juveniles under the age of 16 may use paintball firearms at an approved establishment if in the company of a parent or guardian [23 (12) Firearms Act].
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Q: Can I attend any Post Office?
No. Information on participating Post Offices may be obtained by telephoning 13 13 18 or by visiting www.auspost.com.au and follow the prompts.
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Q: What do I have to do for firearm storage?
- If you are applying for an addition to your Firearm Licence there is provision within the application to certify that you have a storage cabinet that meets the required standard and that there is sufficient space for the 'new' firearm.
- If you are applying as a first time applicant (original licence) you will be contacted by Police Licensing Services after your application has been received. Before the licence is approved you will be required to provide further information regarding the installation of a security cabinet. You will be required to provide a Statutory Declaration evidencing your storage facility.
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Q: Where do I apply for my Firearm Licence?
At any participating Australia Post outlet. You can call Australia Post enquiries on 13 13 18 or check online at www.auspost.com.au.
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Q: I do not know the category of firearm I am applying to licence, how do I find out?
Schedule 3 of the Firearms Regulations 1974 refers — Categories of firearms.
Go to www.police.wa.gov.au and refer to Firearm Categories.
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Q: What specifications do I need to comply with installing my storage safe for my firearms?
Schedule 4 of the Firearms Regulations 1974 refers — Specifications for storage cabinets or containers.
Go to www.police.wa.gov.au and refer to Licensing Requirements/Storage.
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Q: Who do I notify when I dispose of a firearm?
Advise Police Licensing Services (PLS) in writing of the disposal of any firearm including the date sold and to whom the firearm has been sold.
Contact address for PLS is 297 Hay Street East Perth WA 6001 or 1300 171 011 or police.licensing.services@police.wa.gov.au
You are also obliged to notify police within 21 days of changing address.
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Q: I applied for a Firearm Licence and was refused. I paid for the full licence and only received a partial refund. Why?
If you are applying for an original licence and your application is declined, you will be forwarded a partial refund of the original payment.
The application fee is deducted from the total payment received to cover processing costs. If declined, you receive the balance after that fee is removed.
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Q: I have lost/misplaced my licence. What should I do?
Where a firearm licence holder requires a duplicate licence you can attend Police Licensing Services or your local Police Station where a staff member will collect the appropriate fee from you.
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Q: What should I do if I have not received my renewal?
To arrange for the re-issue, contact Police Licensing Services on 1300 171 011 or email police.licensing.services@police.wa.gov.au.
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Q: I have lost my 'Extract of Licence' card. What should I do?
To arrange for the re-issue, contact Police Licensing Services on 1300 171 011 or email police.licensing.services@police.wa.gov.au.
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Q: Do I have to carry my Firearm Licence?
If seeking to purchase ammunition or if you are in possession of a firearm you will need to produce your Firearm Licence on demand.
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Q: Do I have to carry my photo card?
If seeking to purchase ammunition or if you are in possession of a firearm you will need to produce your Firearm Licence on demand.
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Q: The firearm described on my licence is incorrect. How do I get the description on my licence to be the same as the actual firearm?
Produce the firearm to a dealer or club and obtain a serviceability certificate and mail the certificate to Police Licensing Services, 297 Hay Street East Perth WA 6001 or email to police.licensing.services@police.wa.gov.au
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Q: Is it possible for one application to contain multiple licence types i.e. Firearm Licence and Firearm Collector's Licence?
No. Because they are different licence types and allow for possession of firearms under separate circumstances, you must complete a separate application for each licence type.
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Q: Can I include different categories of firearms on the one application such as, Category A and/or B firearms and Category H handguns?
No. Categories A and B can be submitted on one application. Categories C, H and E applications are required to be submitted separately. Each application will incur a separate fee.
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Q: Do I have to provide a letter from a property owner giving me permission to shoot on their property?
Yes, a recreational shooter under Section 11A(2)(c) of the Firearms Act 1973 requires written permission from a property owner to satisfy the genuine reason for an applicant to use a firearm for hunting or recreational shooting.
If the applicant is the owner of a suitable property for the category of firearm being sought then no letter is required; however further evidence may be requested by Police.
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Q: What is the difference between a genuine reason and a genuine need?
Genuine reason under Section 11A of the Firearms Act sets out what is accepted at a legislative level as to who or what is deemed to be considered to have a reason for wishing to licence/possess a firearm.
Under Section 11A (2) (a)-(f) of the state's Firearms Act:
A person has a genuine reason for acquiring or possessing a firearm or ammunition if and only if -
- it is for use by the person as a member of an approved shooting club and the person is an active and financial member of the club;
- it is for use by the person as a member of an organisation approved under this paragraph;
- it is for use in hunting or shooting of a recreational nature on land the owner of which has given permission for that hunting or shooting;
- it is required by the person in the course of the person's occupation;
- it is to form part of a genuine firearm collection or genuine ammunition collection; or
- it is for another approved purpose.
The genuine need is based on a process of why a particular firearm is required over and above one of another type. For guidance on genuine need please refer to Schedule 3 of the Firearms Regulations 1974.
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Q: Is the firearm I am applying for suitable for my size property?
There is no fixed property size requirement; however the application is considered and includes the calibre of the firearm being applied for. Other considerations are the size of the property and what the firearm is to be used for. For example, a high powered firearm would not be granted for an applicant wishing to shoot foxes on a 1 acre property bounded by residential areas.
Common sense is a major factor in the processing of the application. Genuine need also plays an important factor in the assessment of your application.
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Q: I already have a firearm with the same calibre as the one I am applying for. Is this acceptable?
You must be able to justify why you need a similar calibre of firearm if you already have one on your licence.
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Q: Can I hunt on Crown Land?
No. Hunting anywhere other than on private property is difficult in Western Australia without the support of authorities. Section 267 (2)(h) of the Land Administration Act 1997 prohibits the discharge of any firearm or other weapon on Crown Land.
Duck hunting is not permitted in Western Australia.
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Q: I have my firearms licensed in another State, do I need to register them in WA?
Western Australia does not automatically recognise firearm licences issued in other jurisdictions. Under Sections 17 and 17A of the Firearms Act 1973, visitors from interstate need to apply for a temporary permit in order to lawfully possess firearms registered elsewhere while in WA. This can either be done by contacting Police Licensing Services on 1300 171 011 prior to entering WA, by making application at the first available police station once inside WA, or by making application at a nominated Post Office in your state.
As a new resident to WA, you must make an application for a Firearm Licence and have your firearm stored at an 'authorised' facility pending the outcome of your application.
Note: WA Police is not obliged to grant a permit.
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Q: What checks are involved in my firearm passing a Firearm Serviceability Test?
Safety standards and tests:
- The firearm shall be fitted with an effective trigger guard.
- Generally the firearm shall be in a complete condition without any loose or missing parts, components, screws/retainers.
- The firearms have no visible flaws or defects that affect its operation.
- In every case, where fitted, the stock/grips shall be serviceable without any cracks or breaks that would affect the safe use and handling of the firearm.
- The trigger mechanism is not to operate when a force of one (1) kilogram is exerted on the central point of the trigger in the direction in which the trigger operates, except, in the case of a firearm designed with a trigger mechanism capable of being 'set', when the trigger mechanism has been 'set'.
- In subparagraph (2) – "set" means to operate a trigger, button, stud, lever or other device so as to reduce the trigger pressure that is required to operate the trigger mechanism:
- The firearm, unless it is a hammer firearm fitted with a cock mechanism or safety bent, shall be fitted with a safety device which when engaged in the 'safe' position prevents operation of the trigger mechanism and which can be disengaged only by a distinct pressure of the finger or thumb.
- The safety device shall clearly indicate that the firearm is in either a 'safe' or 'fire' condition.
- Target rifles, target handguns, trap guns and other special purpose firearms may be exempted from some or all of the safety tests at the discretion of the Commissioner.
- An underwater explosive device, in addition, shall have a hydraulic safety lock incorporated in the design to prevent the power head discharging out of the water and which shall become effective within a maximum of ten (10) seconds after the power head has been removed from water.
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Q: Where can I obtain an application form to apply for a Firearm Licence?
Application forms can be downloaded from the WA Police website at www.police.wa.gov.au.
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Q: How long does it take to approve my Firearm Licence application?
In the case where an applicant has not previously held a licence there is a legislative requirement for a 28 day waiting period. Once this cooling off period has elapsed, the applicant has a further 28 day period to confirm their intention to proceed with the application otherwise it lapses.
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Q: Can I have my application expedited?
No. Your application will be processed 'in turn' with all other applications.
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Q: How do I inform Police Licensing Services of a change of address?
All address and personal detail changes will only be accepted in writing by submission of:
You must notify Police Licensing Services within 21 days of any change to the address on your licence or permit, residential address, postal address or storage address.
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Q: How do I inform Police Licensing Services of a change of name?
You must notify Police Licensing Services in writing of any change of name and provide evidence of the name change. You must provide a certified copy of:
- Change of name certificate issued by the Department of Births, Deaths and Marriages.
- Full birth certificate that includes the schedule of all names changes; or
- A marriage certificate.
- Decree Nisi (divorce).
Note: The definition of certified - A copy of a document or record, signed and certified as a true copy of an original by an authorised person.
You must notify Police Licensing Services within 21 days of any change to the address on your licence or permit, residential address, postal address or storage address.
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Q: When do I receive my Extract of Licence card?
Once you have been successful in applying for your Firearm Licence, you will receive a letter advising you to attend your local post office to have your photograph taken and to pay for your Extract of Licence card. The card is a requirement under the Firearms Act 1973 and must be carried whenever you are carrying your firearm or wish to purchase ammunition. On average once you have paid for your extract it will take 7 to 10 working days for your extract to be delivered.
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Q: How do I notify Police Licensing Services of a licence holder's death?
The executor of the estate must hand the firearm/s into a local police station if the firearm/s are not licensed by any other person. If co-licensed, the firearm/s should be handed over to the co-licensed person pending the matter being dealt with to ensure safe keeping.
The executor or administrator of an estate should advise police:
- The name and contact details for the executor of the estate
- The full name of the deceased licence holder
- The deceased's Firearm Licence number (if known)
- The deceased's date of birth
The executor must advise what is to happen with the firearm/s, be it disposal to a firearm dealer, forfeiture of the firearm for destruction or held pending outcome of the estate. The executor of an estate must not retain possession of the firearm/s unless he/she is co-licensed to possess the firearm/s.
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Q: What should I do if I cannot find the answer or the information I'm looking for is unclear?
Please send an email to police.licensing.services@police.wa.gov.au outlining your questions or issues.
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Q: I would like to import firearms and/or ammunition. How do I go about it? What do I need to do?
- Prior to approaching Police Licensing Services, you should first contact and liaise with the Australian Customs Service and/or the Federal Attorney General's office to verify importation requirements.
- Before the firearm/s enter Australia, the applicant must contact Police Licensing Services on 1300 171 011 or email police.licensing.services@police.wa.gov.au and submit a Weapons Import Permit (B709) application.
Weapons Import Permit (B709) applications are reviewed at Police Licensing Services to ensure probity and legislative compliance.
- If your B709 application is approved, you will need to apply for a Temporary Permit (Form 6).
(Note: As Temporary Permits are only issued for the purpose of conveyance of the firearm within Western Australia, your application should only be submitted on arrival of your firearm in Western Australia).
- Applicant attends and presents both permits to Customs who will release the firearm/s to the applicant. B709 is for Customs use whereas the Temporary Permit provides for lawful possession of the firearm/s in accordance with the permit conditions i.e: conveyance to an authorised person (dealer/repairer/club/association) for the purpose of obtaining a Serviceability Certificate.
(Note: Pending outcome of the application process, the applicant is not permitted to have 'possession' of the firearms and must make arrangements for their 'lawful' safekeeping. This may require the applicant to have their firearms stored with an 'Authorised Firearm Dealer' or another 'authorised' facility.)
- Once in possession of the Serviceability Certificate, the applicant is required to attach it to their licence application which will be lodged at a participating Australia Post outlet.
Further information is available at: Customs Australia Import/Export
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Q: I am going overseas for competition or hunting activities. What do I need to do?
If you are leaving Western Australia for the purpose of sport target or hunting activities (outside of Australia) you are required to obtain a Weapons Import Permit (B709) from Police Licensing Services to enable you to re-enter Australia with your firearm.
The Weapons Import Permit satisfies Australian Customs Service requirements in that you are lawfully entitled to possess the firearm/s in Western Australia. You must also ensure that your Firearm Licence is current.
For information relating to exporting firearms overseas, please access the import/export area on www.customs.gov.au.
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Q: How do I export a firearm overseas?
To export a firearm from Australia, please contact the Australian Customs Service on 1300 363 263.
For information relating to exporting firearms overseas, please access the import/export area on www.customs.gov.au.
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Q: How do I contact you if I have a query?
Website: www.police.wa.gov.au
Email: police.licensing.services@police.wa.gov.au
Postal Address: 297 Hay Street, East Perth WA 6004.
Office Hours: 8:00am - 4:00pm
Phone: 1300 171 011
Fax: (08) 9223 7029
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Q: Can I advertise the sale of firearms?
You can advertise your firearms for sale in public advertising columns however, it is preferred that the advertisement is through a recognised, registered firearm magazine linked to a club/association and include the serial number of the firearm. Caution should be taken when supplying your address where the firearms are stored.
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Q: Must I declare all convictions?
Yes, including all traffic convictions and any offences committed abroad.
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Q: How long is my Firearm Serviceability Certificate valid for?
Three months from the date of issue.
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Q: I have a criminal record. Would that prevent me from obtaining a Firearm Licence?
Every application is considered on its merit giving consideration to the Commissioner's discretion.
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Q: Can my partner or member of my family transport my firearm/s for me?
Only if they are licensed to possess the firearm/s.
(Also refer to Section 8(i) of the Firearms Act 1973, which provides exemptions from licensing for family members and employees/contracted persons of Primary Producers).
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Q: Must I notify Police Licensing Services of all sales and/or acquisitions?
Yes, firearms legislation requires that the Commissioner (Police Licensing Services) be notified of the manner and date of disposal and should include details of the name/address of the person the firearm was disposed to.
In the case of an acquisition of a firearm it is a requirement that all firearms in Western Australia be subject of a licence or permit unless an exemption exists.
An application to licence a firearm will need to be made through a participating Australia Post outlet.
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Q: Can I have my guns held by another party for safe custody while I am away?
It is highly recommended that the firearms be stored at an approved facility such as an approved warehouse if you are away for any extended period.
At the discretion of the Officer in Charge of a police station and subject of an application being made for safe custody of the firearms they may be retained in safekeeping on your behalf. A fee is payable in this instance.
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Q: I purchased a firearm but it's faulty and I need to replace it with another one from the dealer, what do I do?
Where a firearm is found to be faulty it can be replaced but another noting fee will be incurred. The applicant is advised to seek civil remedy from the Dealer or Seller in respect to the additional noting fee or any other costs incurred.
An application will need to be submitted through Australia Post however it is advisable to make a notation on the application regarding the circumstances of the faulty firearm.
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Q: Do I have to install a firearm cabinet before I get a licence?
No. Once probity checking of your 'original' application is completed and you are considered to be 'Fit and Proper' you will be notified and advised to install a firearm cabinet as per the firearms regulations. Guidance on this can be obtained from the WA Police website.
You will be required to provide evidence of installation.
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Q: I want to change the calibre of a firearm I already own, what do I have to do?
This is basically treated as an 'addition' to your firearm licence with the exception that you already retain possession of the firearm albeit in a different calibre.
You will be required to obtain a 'Serviceability Certificate' from the Repairer who completed the calibre change, then submit an application at a participating Australia Post outlet in the same manner as an 'additional' application.
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